Observations

If I found myself doing as much work to disprove the existence of the Tooth Fairy as atheists do trying to disprove the existence of God, I think I would start robbing dental labs and piling teeth beneath my pillow.

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5 Responses to Observations

  1. If tooth fairy believers were trying to get toothfairy-ism to be taught in public science classes, or make it so only people with all their teeth could get married, then you might.

  2. john zande says:

    Might just correct you here. One cannot disprove something that never existed. Atheism never attempts to disprove your god. It doesn’t have to. You try and prove it… but fail.

  3. jackhudson says:

    That would rather make my point; I don’t have to expend any effort disproving the existence of the Toooth Fairy. Or the Santa Claus. Or the Easter Bunny. Those beliefs quickly fall by the wayside once one engages them rationally – but belief in God persists and some notion of God is universal across time and cultures.

    If there was truly ‘no evidence’ as only atheists claim, then why wouldn’t belief in God fade the way other cherished notions do?

  4. “but belief in God persists”

    Only in a very general and vague way. Each religion and culture has their ideas about who or what He (or She) is. Even within Christianity there are heated debates regarding the nature of God (such as the Calvinism/Arminian debate which still rages in the blogosphere).

    I’m not sure that such a consensus really proves anything, exactly, other than that there may be a universal human need to believe in a higher and supreme force in the universe.

  5. jackhudson says:

    Only in a very general and vague way. Each religion and culture has their ideas about who or what He (or She) is. Even within Christianity there are heated debates regarding the nature of God (such as the Calvinism/Arminian debate which still rages in the blogosphere).

    Thanks for the thoughts James.

    I think various cultures developed different ideas about God the same way various cultures developed ideas about why the sun moves across the sky – they were all responding to a real phenomenon that they actually experienced. Now we have a pretty good idea about why the sun appears to move as it does and so very few variations in belief about the subject. In much the same way the widespread and disparate pagan beliefs have given way to the more consistent and cohesive notions Christianity proffers about God. Now it is true other religions continue to exist (though much less than in past history) but we know part of the reason this is true is because it serves the interests of certain groups to compel people to believe certain ideas about God, and prevent other ideas from being introduced – this is true in much of the Islamic world, as it has been in many secular Marxist countries.

    Also, the fundamental argument that is often made, ‘If some things about God cannot be known with certainty, nothing about God can be truly known’ simply isn’t logically tenable as I have pointed out elsewhere. If it were true, then it would undermine our beliefs about nature as well, since we don’t understand many things about nature. So the fact that that Calvinists and Arminians differ on ideas about election doesn’t mean the points on which they agree – like the Apostles Creed, aren’t true.

    I’m not sure that such a consensus really proves anything, exactly, other than that there may be a universal human need to believe in a higher and supreme force in the universe.

    I agree that such a need exists, where I think we differ is on why such a need exists to begin with. I think that constitutes good evidence that something exists to fulfill that need.

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